I once did a demo and didnt run through it before hand and made a complete hash of it, anyway the Brother () doing the item had to say 'as long as you dont do it like that, i'm sure it will be fine'!
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to the time when i both witnessed and delivered talks.
one of the defining moments of why .
I once did a demo and didnt run through it before hand and made a complete hash of it, anyway the Brother () doing the item had to say 'as long as you dont do it like that, i'm sure it will be fine'!
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i don't know how you feel but i am pleased to be part of a community that cares about fellow members.
although we may not know individuals in person, we get a "sense" of many of our fellow posters especially if we have been here for any length of time.. several of our fellow posters have experienced terrible tragedies that result in financial nightmares.
i don't know how all of you feel, but i would rather give directly to someone in need than through a charity.
I have personally felt and witnessed the help and support of the JWD community and I for one am extremely grateful for that, i think its really good to think along those lines restrangled. A great deal of the help given here is emotional support and experience, but to support financially is a great idea also.
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what i'm wondering is if you have hurt people by your actions and they happen to be jw's and your now disfellowshipped, and therefore they shun you, is there really anyway to say your sorry (other than submit to the congregation elders, and eventually (maybe) be reinstated).. this is kinda the situation i'm in.
i have done things that have hurt people, one's i see in connection with my family.
i want to be and say i'm sorry and regret things i have done, and yet it was never leaving the witnesses that i'm sorry for, rather my own actions that got me df.
Mmm some interesting points have been made, thank you. I had thought about writing to a few individuals, i'll think it through and consider what I might say to them. I dont intend to use it as a platform to in anyway justify myself or have a pop at their beliefs.
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what i'm wondering is if you have hurt people by your actions and they happen to be jw's and your now disfellowshipped, and therefore they shun you, is there really anyway to say your sorry (other than submit to the congregation elders, and eventually (maybe) be reinstated).. this is kinda the situation i'm in.
i have done things that have hurt people, one's i see in connection with my family.
i want to be and say i'm sorry and regret things i have done, and yet it was never leaving the witnesses that i'm sorry for, rather my own actions that got me df.
What i'm wondering is if you have hurt people by your actions and they happen to be JW's and your now disfellowshipped, and therefore they shun you, is there really anyway to say your sorry (other than submit to the congregation elders, and eventually (maybe) be reinstated).
This is kinda the situation i'm in. I have done things that have hurt people, one's I see in connection with my family. I want to be and say i'm sorry and regret things I have done, and yet it was never leaving the witnesses that i'm sorry for, rather my own actions that got me df. I cant go back to something thats clearly false, but yet I can't see they'd except anything less. Part of leaving the JW's was something I had to do, but I made mistakes over that time, that i'm now sorry for. What to do.....?
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so far this monday has been one nightmare after another.. it began with discovering that overnight my computer has wiped my harddrive - everything gone - photos, msn conversations, university assignments, diaries, letters, work docs, movies, videos, unmentionables.
i feel like i have been erased!
why - i have no idea?.
These days that we all get have a habit of getting better i've found. As for under wire bra problems, I can still hear a wire in my washing machine from a few years ago, so far its not damaged anything....and no its wasnt one of mine!
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paul states in galatians 2:16,. .
"knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of jesus christ, even we have believed in jesus christ, that we might be justified by the faith of christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
did you ever wonder if you were just an employee of the wts?
Because the majority are not christians - they are merely the companions of the annointed. Therefore acording to Pauls words in Romans they are still under law and are subject to sin because of that. In reality its a man made rulle designed to bind up and burden the r & f in order to maintain their loyalty to the Borg.
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with all the news concerning the child abuse lawsuits, and from reading many comments concerning the wts' view of women, i started remembering lots of little things that were brought up at my kh in the many years i attended.
i don't remember anything pertaining to the brothers.
but, there were things brought up from the platform that just seem ridiculous.
At the quick build at my old congregation, the guy doing the carpark/road area, pulled my (now ex) wife up for one button her blouse being undone, and exposing a little bit of cleavage. That whole society is obsessed with sex, that all the male members can do is think about it constantly - or is that just all men
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yesterday we have a study of the watchtower about obedience and submission.
this study arose a lot of questions and heightened emotions in me and the interested retired judge sitting besides me.
we came accross the 9th pharagraph, page 28 of the april 1, 2007, where it says that: "it is easy to obey when everything is clear and we agree, but we will show that we are trully submissive if we yeild even when we do not personally understand the direction provided.
Christianity is all about your own conscience, not having to rely on others to answer each circumstance you face. Its not about blindly submitting to men, but being able to discern for yourself whats right and wrong as you understand it, to your level of spirituality. On judgement day people won't be able to say 'they told me what to do'. Its clearly wrong, its very cultish and obviously shows the leaders fear losing their grip on those minds they have so cleverly and deviously captivated.
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ok, here's the link to the second "fun with covers" video i've posted.
i took the covers from the various cover redo threads and made slideshows.
people seem to like them.
Nice one, very amusing!
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humbly submitting to loving shepherds.
*** w87 6/15 p. 15 par.
500-501 par.
Thanks Blondie! What a telling study article, paragraphs 4,5 and 6 were the ones that stood out for me. Particularly this bit:
These "gifts in men" are overseers, or elders, appointed by Jehovah and his Son, through holy spirit,...........In this time of the end, however, with the number of anointed overseers still on earth ever dwindling, the vast majority of Christian elders in the congregations are of the other sheep. Since these are appointed by representatives of the Governing Body under the leadings of the holy spirit, they too can be said to be under the right hand (or, under the direction) of the Fine Shepherd, Jesus Christ. (Isaiah 61:5, 6) Since the elders in our congregations submit to Christ, the Head of the congregation, they deserve our full cooperation .
Firstly it says that its to the annointed that these gifts in men are given and in the next breath, they have over stepped the direction in the bible and now do their own appointing, of a group of people unqualified to do the task, even to the point that these great crowd elders are not able to be called Christians.
It was this area that I had issue's with when I was in, I couldn't see how the verses used could be applied to us non anointed ones.
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